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Published on September 26, 2006 By Zoomba In WinCustomize News

Ok, everyone takes it as generally accepted fact that Internet Explorer under Windows has a track record of being horribly insecure unless the user takes steps to tweak security settings, install pop-up blockers, bog their system down with AntiVirus, and run regular sweeps of the system to make sure nothing nefarious ever makes it through.  But then there's the rest of the computing population that has turned their noses up in contempt and gone off to use Firefox and Opera under Windows.  A few have taken it a step further and even ditched Windows completely in favor of Linux or MacOS with their respective browsers.  We think ourselves safe, secure and more or less untouchable by those vile malware and spyware coders, those hackers of ill-repute who are determined to hijack our computers via our own web surfing.

However, according to Symantec Corporation, a company with absolutely no vested interest in this issue at all, it is merely a placebo, a lie we tell ourselves to feel better.  We are in fact no more safe using these alternatives and still are in dire need of their help and software to secure our systems from Mr. Hacker. 

Symantecs' yearly Internet Security Threat Report documents the relative security of browsers such as IE, Firefox, Opera and Safari.  In the grand Firefox/IE debate, Symantec says that while IE compromises account for 47% of all attacks, Firefox actually clocked more reported vulnerabilities in the first half of this year than IE (47 versus 38 for IE).  It paints a picture where the perceived insecurity of IE and strongbox reputation of Firefox is more a result of volume of users as opposed to inherent security of the code.

For more analysis of the report, check the BetaNews article linked below.

I think Symantec wins the "Obvious Observation" award today for their stunning revelation that all browsers have vulnerabilities.


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on Sep 26, 2006
but it could be just me, that the story's subtitle makes the tone of the piece fairly clear

That, and the closing sentence..........
I think Symantec wins the "Obvious Observation" award today for their stunning revelation that all browsers have vulnerabilities.



on Sep 26, 2006

Now that the obvious facts about security while connected to the Internet has been restated, I think most of us are looking for a security software that does not slow the system down.

It is truly amazing how slow the load times are after installing any of Symantec's security software. I have to agree that this is more about justification of their software, than helping users.

I am currently testing Vista RC1 (5728) on my notebook, with the latest Avast AV (Home 4.7, which is free) and the MS firewall (which is doing alright, IMO). IE7 has a phishing filter included, and my ISP has decent spam filters (combined with the Office 2007 Beta2 TC filters) - which all combine (with a little user knowledge) for decent security. I suspect that the performance on the notebook using the current security solutions will prove to be better than if I were to install Symantec's inevitable future offerings for the Vista.

I am one who has wanted to give Symantec products the benefit of the doubt, but the obvious increase in performance issues has become all too apparent. I hope they can turn it around.

on Sep 26, 2006
For 'Safe Surfing' simply avoid www.symantec.com ....
on Sep 26, 2006
I want to drive trucks.




[Someone at Symantec:]
"Lets try to come across as the good guys and start posting 'valuable' consumer information, ...maybe we can get some of that marketshare back again."

[Me:]
'fraid not, Symantec ..you lost me years ago with your offshore tech support and crappy software.

Don't bother with this hype, it ain't gonna win you back the ones you've lost.
on Sep 27, 2006
Symantec products haven't been good since Norton 2002.

My $.02 is that Microsoft is doing a good job with their new stuff (Windows Defender, OneCare is very good) while on the other end of the spectrum, IE7 is a worthy browser and has come a LONG way since IE6. I'm not a "fanboy", but I call a spade a spade and their new stuff IS decent.

No operating system is EVER going to be 100% secure. Ever. As long as the developers keep working on them, then it's all good and I personally will keep upgrading without complaint.
on Sep 27, 2006
Nothin is safe anymore...its them damn terrorists I tell ya!
on Sep 27, 2006
I don't give a flying f**k what Symantec says, they're never ever going to convince me that I'm better off/safer using their crappy gear....and that's what this new report of theirs is all about, putting the fear of bejesus into gullible people in order to recover lost market share.

Since ditching NIS about a year ago, I've had a much happier and speedier computing experience with few if any problems. I still get the odd tracking cookie and a bot here and there, which are easily dealt with by Adaware and/or Spybot, but I'm not plagued with false positives and the non-existent intrusion attempts NIS constantly threw at me. Since switching to Avast, which is free and has a much smaller footprint than Norton, I've had a much happier and more efficient machine...so they've got a snowball's chance in Hell of getting me back as a Symantec consumer.

Trouble is, Symantec seems to be buying up other PC protection companies, and now one has to wonder where their AV products/support are coming from. Not too sure now, but I think it was AVG's site that closed a part or all of its online support centre when I was transferred to Symantec for info on updates, etc. I also got an email which suggests Symantec has acquired a major interest in CA Associates EzTrust Internet Security...although the email was from CA Associates, the main body of the message repeatedy referred to Symantec's ongoing efforts with gov'ts & ISP's to reduce PC attacks.

It's really worrying, that if Symantec continues to dominate the Internet Security market and eventually manages to buy out the other players, we'll have no choice. Perhaps that a matter the anti-trust people should be looking into....yeah, that mob Symantec keeps running to about MS and anyone else who looks like cornering some percentage of the PC security market.

Nothin is safe anymore...its them damn Symantec terrorists I tell ya!


Okay, so I slightly altered it.

on Sep 27, 2006
symantec releasing security propoghanda? harborering hackers to attack Microsoft and incite virus fear? Supressing built-in core level protection to push their own radical agenda? Secret funding of the EU to battle microsoft? It's AV Jihad! Conspiracy paranoias galore!

ms should bomb the sobs! teach them that you can't mess with a world power....
on Sep 27, 2006
I personally have ZERO use for anything Symantec... and as previously stated of course their going to say no platform is safe.
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