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Published on September 27, 2006 By Zoomba In WinCustomize News

As it has recently come out that Symantec is one of the companies central in encouraging the European Commission in causing trouble for Microsoft and its Vista launch next year, it's no surprise that the security software and services company would start leveling accusations aimed directly at the software giant in Redmond.  Symantec, a company best known to consumers for its anti-virus and anti-spyware tools, is now accusing Microsoft of withholding key APIs needed to build effective security tools that can operate with Windows Vista.

Microsoft fired back saying that as of Friday, September 22nd, coinciding closely with the release of Vista RC1, the APIs needed to disable Windows Defender and use some of the functionality to enhance third party security applications.  Symantec claims that Microsoft, despite the Sept. 22nd announcement, have yet to make the APIs available.

This comes at a crucial time as software developers race to build Vista compatible applications.  For many who sell in the retail space, or as bundled products with computers from companies like Dell or HP, the deadline to get disks and boxes to manufacturing and then through distribution is rapidly approaching.  Symantec has a late-October deadline to get their software out for OEM distribution.  Their fear is that Microsoft will finally release the APIs a few days before that date so they can say they technically provided it, but not give enough time for developers to actually make their software function with it.


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on Sep 27, 2006
just to make sure that Microsoft onecare demos get installed instead ?
on Sep 27, 2006
Yea, sure, because Symantec made great anti-virus software for XP. hmmm... what was that software that screwed up my network settings rendering my computer to not automaticly receive IP address when it was uninstalled... oh wait!
on Sep 27, 2006
Good for MS on this one. I hope they hold out from Symantec till the last possible moment.
PCCillin is alredy available for Vista. It's a bit more resource intensive than SAV (Corporate) but a much better product.
on Sep 27, 2006
I really don't think MS is "obligated" to provive the API's but eventually they will have to give in. I think all the Symantec products are crap anyway ever since we went from Win98 to Win2000/XP. But after saying all this it is probably why Symantec products aren't any good because they always have to wait so long to get the API's and thus rush to market with an inferior product! Hmmm
on Sep 27, 2006
God! And people wonder why I went to a Mac.........
on Sep 27, 2006

God! And people wonder why I went to a Mac.........

Nope....I didn't, not at all....

on Sep 27, 2006
Anythings better than Symantec.
on Sep 27, 2006

According to the article, they requested permission to develop using the API and were granted permission on two days ago. It sounds like a case of impatience to me.

One question that I do not currently know the answer to is: "are the PC manufacturers allowed to sell machines running Vista prior to the January release of the OS to retailers? If not, then there is still plenty of time for a company like Symantec to get their ducks in a row and provide the necessary products to their manufacturing partners. It doesn't sound like any other competitors have received anything before Symantec has.

I have to say that the Avast free AV combined with the Vista firewall passed the "Shields Up" testing with flying colors, so this would seem to indicate (at least to me) that the "end all, be all" solution that Symantec seems to be working towards is not needed. Any of the other main stream security products are fine as well, including (one would think) the 'OneCare' product which is due to release a beta compatible with RC1 soon.

I would bet that there is at least 60 days until the real threat of being late to the table is a reality. Just a guess of course.

on Sep 27, 2006
Sorry for the bad grammar and punctuation in #8, no editing ability on this page for me.
on Sep 28, 2006
I guess they were to stupid to reverse engineer Vista and figure out the api....DUMBASSES!!!!!!

Symantec SUCKS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAD!!!!!!!


Get a rope.......

Speedy
on Sep 28, 2006
Bizarre.

I use Avast and it installed just fine some 3 weeks ago on Vista.

Eh, Symantec gets what they deserve. I hope they never get the keys.

PC
on Sep 28, 2006
I don't like Symantec. I had Norton Antivirus and it didn't find any viruses. I installed PC-Cillin which immediately found it and cleaned it. Not to mention those stupid warning boxes from Norton that you can't minimize but they always stay on top
on Sep 28, 2006
Oh, here we go again, Symantec's bumping its gums and crying foul....or should I say fowl, being their press release guy's a bit of a goose for publicly crying in his pretzels.

Eh, Symantec gets what they deserve. I hope they never get the keys.


I dunno, PC, anybody'd get the idea you don't like Symantec. You're right, though, Symantec are the biggest cry babies in the computing world and deserve every bit of ridicule they receive, especially when their products are too recource intensive and just plain crap.

I also use Avast in XP, but seeing as you've found it works well in Vista, I'll give it a try in my copy as well....it's a good AV proggie and, in Vista, would most definitely out-perfom Symantec's resource hogging junk with its much smaller footprint.

BTW, has anybody got a spare pair of boots? I've enjoyed kicking Symantec while they're down so much, mine are plain wore out.
on Sep 28, 2006
Wouldn't touch Symantec with a 50-meter pole....have used AVAST & AVG without complaint & will try BitDefender based on Jafo's recommendations a couple of months ago during one of those AntiVirus/Adware "which do you prefer" posts here. Symantec is POISON - stay away from it!
on Sep 28, 2006
I guess they were to stupid to reverse engineer Vista and figure out the api....DUMBASSES!!!!!!


Ummm... a drastic violation of EULA.

Think again "Speedy"
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