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Because the software pirates would otherwise purchase Vista...
Published on February 19, 2007 By Zoomba In WinCustomize News

Last week we mentioned that Microsoft was backing away from sales forecasts that it's now calling "aggressive" for Windows Vista through 2008.  A lot of people marked slow sales up to a combination of hardware and software support lagging, and the lack of compelling reasons to move away from Windows XP considering how stable of an OS it has become in the last 5 years. 

However, it seems Microsoft sees the issue a bit differently.

In the same call last week with analysts saying that estimates on sales were overly aggressive, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer says one way to improve sales is to tighten the screws on pirates through strengthening of the Windows Genuine Advantage protection system.  Claiming "Piracy reduction can be a source of Windows revenue growth..."

Specifically mentioned, was targeting emerging markets in Asia, currently hotbeds for software piracy.

The question is, will making it harder to pirate encourage more sales?  Or will these protections just prove a minor annoyance that will just take a little while longer for hackers to overcome?  And what will be the cost to legal users who find themselves having to prove their "legal" copies to Microsoft in the future?


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on Feb 19, 2007
I agree...that and the price



Well Yeah I.R..The Price is ridiculous as well..Way out of control,It put a dent in my wallet, I had to go use the damn ATM..GRRRRRRRR...LoL.

Then again, the people who still have computer that are well out of the range of Vista, probably don't know what Vista is in the first place.


LMAO, You know Adam, That is Soooo very true...I tell people all the time about Vista, it's like the first time they have heard of it..needless to say they arent real interested in hearing anything more about it after I mention it..it's just kind of shrugged off with something like "oh yeah?..Cool"

While I concur that many changes in Win 98 were subtle, I found it to be a vastly buggier OS than 95; my personal experience of using both 95 and 98 on several computers over many years was that I experienced many more crashes and fatal errors on 98. But, this is a bit OT.


Well Warren, I guess you caught me...Yes I too am a bit "Buggy"..Perhaps thats why 98 and I got along so well, LoL..
Actually I am sorry to hear that your experience with Win98 was not a good one, it is not the same for everyone. Have you ever considered that the blame wasnt entirely the OS's fault?
At anyrate, it is waaay O/T but it was a simple observation that I had to share, I do know people that still use the OS and I cannot pry them away from it to save my life, Ugggggg!... I wish they would upgrade to XP, but unfortunately many people do not have the need or desire to move with the times and that is really their choice...


I doubt that everyone has enough money to upgrade computers.


Mr XX, I believe the whole idea was to increase new PC sales... They would prefer you to buy a PC with Vista pre-installed..
These days?...I think you're right, people have other things more pressing than buying new PC's that have a few xtra frills..Buying Gasoline to get back and forth to work might just be one of them, LoL

on Feb 19, 2007
on Feb 19, 2007
Price and XP would be the number 1 killer of VIsta.

I live in malaysia, THe cheapest version of Vista OEM itself cost like 300+. Ultimate OEM cost 600+. Most stores here don't even carry real versions of Vista.

For a 3rd world country like us, 300+ is very very pricey for a software. It's no wonder that most people won't even look into VIsta. Only computer geeks like me will want to try it out, everyone else is happy with XP.
on Feb 19, 2007
Only thing that will make the Vista-sales pickup is when games start going DX10 and as MS has stated that XP will not run DX10 - people will have no choice but upgrade. Legally or illegally.
on Feb 19, 2007
The only people that get slowed down by anti piracy measures are the paying customers.
on Feb 19, 2007
Only thing that will make the Vista-sales pickup is when games start going DX10 and as MS has stated that XP will not run DX10 - people will have no choice but upgrade. Legally or illegally.


It isn't that they WONT add it its that they can't without major editing of the OS and how it works, and its not worth it, go buy vista - thats basicly what they're looking for.
on Feb 20, 2007
Only thing that will make the Vista-sales pickup is when games start going DX10 and as MS has stated that XP will not run DX10 - people will have no choice but upgrade. Legally or illegally.

And by "people" of course you mean "gamers", because I know plenty of people who don't play many games on PC, or at all, and I'm not talking about my grandparents.

I do agree though with the general idea - MS really missed the mark by targeting all the Vista marketing towards the "casual user". They should've waited couple of months till NVidia's and ATI's drivers are in better shape, and when DX10 games are closer to release and then released the OS with heavy emphasis on gamers - 'cause these are the users that keep up with the tech and have the desire, and in some cases the money (or daddy's money) to upgrade. And they would've also had time to clean up more of the bugs.
on Feb 20, 2007
Well I believe that the reasons Microsoft did not acheive their goal in sales is that Windows Vista is very expensive and one of their mistakes were that you can actually extend the 30 day period of activation to 120 days therefore if you format every four months you can keep a valid copy of Vista and never have to pay for it. Another reason I think that may have hurt the sales is the announcement of their pending OS scheduled for release in 2009. So when factoring in that windows XP is very stable along with the mentioned reasons above I dont believe that helps their case....  
on Feb 20, 2007
I have windows vista ultimate. But when playing games like Flatout 2, Supreme Commander, my sound is just f**kt up. And that was with the latest creative drivers, i also try'd modded creative drivers but it still gave me the same results.

I think vista needs some more time, also the companies that make the drivers for vista are very slow at creating and publishing their drivers, especialy "Creative". Vista is a good OS but atm its standing in "kiddy shoes", meaning that its still all fresh. There are 3 things that bother me in vista

= Drivers, UAC and sys*defragmenter =

There fore, given the above reasons, i decided to switch back to XP for a while mainly for its stability and correct drivers. I will give vista and the drivers a couple of months to work on it before switching over to vista again. My hobby is playing games, but on vista some games are just a pain in the ass if you ask me. (Blaming the current drivers !!)

The price for vista is TO high in my opinion, thus likely creating the change for more users to seek for the "illegal" method of acquiring vista. Microsoft is a good companie that makes good software, but its all new, you will need to give it some time to adapt in to the cociaty. When its adapted, Then its a good OS for people to use !!

(PS: dont blame my english if you see any foults in spelling, im dutch  )
on Feb 20, 2007
Pirates? What pirates?
I thought Vista had like a really good activation system and stuff
on Feb 20, 2007
"In December, Softchoice warned that 94 percent of PCs in North America would not be capable of running Windows Vista Home Premium—half of PCs, any Vista version."

This article might have something to do with the slow acceptance. It is workplace related but the underlying issues are the same in many respects.



WWW Link
on Feb 20, 2007
Who needs to upgrade to Vista, sincerely? This is the major issue. Why should I have to spend hundreds of Euro, hours to wipe off my system disk e reinstall the OS, DAYS to reinstall every piece of software is running today on my pc. My XP installations (at home and at work) run quite well, stable and almost secure with weekly based little administration task (just running an antispyware prog). Why should I have to upgrade? No reason at all, as for Win98 from Win95, Millenium from Win98 ...
on Feb 20, 2007
It's simple...if you want it bad enough, you'll get it. You don't NEED to upgrade to Vista, you don't HAVE to upgrade to Vista. Keep XP if you're happy with it, save the money, and ignore all the hype.

No muss, no fuss. Vista is out. It's price is what it is. Get it or don't get it. Whining about all of it isn't going to change anything. Just DON'T get it.
on Feb 20, 2007
Pirates? What pirates?


"We Neeeeeed no stinking Pirates" ..LoL..Sorry...couldnt resist..

Hate to say it but Boss is right..nobody is twisting your arm to buy Vista, while I can agree the price is out of control for what the OS is...It really is just that simple..Buy it or dont...

I imagine the OEM version of ultimate will drop rather quickly if you can wait it out, should give you plenty of useful time to perform the upgrades you need to prepare..Hmmmm??
A Vid card here, more RAM there..whatever the case may be...

Like I tried to point out before, There really isnt a reason to switch to Vista at the moment anyway unless you want to be the first kid on the block with all the new toys..
If thats the case then you pay-up and shut-up..thats the way it's always been...
XP will be around for quite awhile yet, and it will still be a great OS to use...

Sorry, I really didnt mean to sound rude, just being clear... Vista is NOT a necessity...Yet.

on Feb 20, 2007

When I bought 98 [oem] it was AUD $180

When I bought XP Pro [oem] it was AUD $200

If, when I buy Ultimate [oem] it's around AUD $2-300 I'll call it CPI [inflation], nothing more.

Why fret?

Either it is perceived as value for money....or it is not.

Purchase is still optional...

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