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AppScout, a website run by the editors and analysts of PC Magazine, just the other day sat down with Stardock CEO Brad Wardell to talk a bit about Stardock DeskScapes, the software that extends Windows Vista DreamScene beyond simple videos and into the realm of dynamic animated content for your desktop.  Describing DeskScapes as "one of the first third-party apps to truly take advantage of the OS's graphical capabilities..."  they proceed to grill Brad over what DeskScapes is and how it is different (and better) than the standard DreamScene utility currently available from Microsoft.

Some of the topics covered:

  • Difference between DeskScapes & DreamScenes
  • What's possible with dynamic Dreams
  • Creating & sharing user-created work
  • DeskScapes on Non-Ultimate Vista???

The interview is probably one of the most informative articles on DeskScapes on the net so far.  If you're at all curious about the technology, and what may be coming in the future, head over and check it out.


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on Apr 05, 2007
Okay fine....Ill just go get it somewhere else....Never said you werent doinf updates on all the old stuff...I was strictly speaking about new stuff...That is actually cool to use....Sorry I already have All the below mentioned things..
WindowBlinds 5.5
Theme Manager updates
ObjectBar 2.0
WindowFX 3.0
The Object Desktop LaunchPad
DesktopX 3.2 (which was a pretty major update despite being a point release)
Enhanced File Dialog 1.0
Stardock Virtual Desktops 2.0 (a total rewrite)
Keyboard LaunchPad 1.5 (a significant update that added shell integration)
RightClick 1.2
But these have all been around for awhile...
So go get bent Frogboy...You still only choose to hear what you want to hear in this area...Seems stuff never really changes arouind here......
Fry's Electronic offers a full version of Ultimate for 289 Dollars or the OEM Install..But you have tyo buy a piece of hardware...Yes you can get JUST THE UPGRADE FOR ONLY 200..So unless you "Cracked" it I dont see how you got a full version for only 200 dollars
WWW Link

I think you will see that it is 378 for a full install of Vista...So were did yuou get your 200 dollar version from newegg???? That is were you said it was from... right???
Quoted above."don't know where you found the oem of ultimate for 300 bucks. i bought it from newegg for 200 and didn't buy a new mobo, hdd, or any other piece of hardware with it."

Really well follow the link above to new egg for that bit of false info...Really..Who would want to go pay 300 plus to run the extras...
But I guess everyone on this site just has money falling out there butts like monkeys and flying pigs...
on Apr 05, 2007
Apperiantly I cannot afford to be your customer....then..correct?
on Apr 05, 2007
OEM versions of Vista cost less than the retail versions.  I got Vista Ultimate for 254 dollars, Canadian.  
on Apr 05, 2007
So if someone really thinks that we haven't been doing a good job updating and enhancing Object Desktop this past year, then I really don't know if I want them as a customer.



So much for stating a contrary position. Why do you feel it necessary to say these things?
on Apr 05, 2007
I gotta admit.. since Vista was released, the crew at Stardock have been WAY bigger people than I would have been in dealing with some of the completely irrational people that have cattled through the doors. Kudos to you all for keeping it professional.   
on Apr 05, 2007
I gotta admit.. since Vista was released, the crew at Stardock have been WAY bigger people than I would have been in dealing with some of the completely irrational people that have cattled through the doors. Kudos to you all for keeping it professional.


Ditto that!
on Apr 05, 2007
Why do you feel it necessary to say these things?


Probably gets tired of explaining why he has the right to sell his products amongst the $hitstorm of entitlement.
on Apr 05, 2007
Probably gets tired of explaining why he has the right to sell his products amongst the $hitstorm of entitlement.


Undoubtedly, but...ahh the heck with it.
on Apr 05, 2007

Apperiantly I cannot afford to be your customer....then..correct?

No, you just have unreasonable expectations.

We have released a lot of new stuff for Object Desktop this past year.

DeskScapes is currently tied to Windows DreamScene which is available only for Windows Vista Ultimate. Getting mad at us for Microsoft's decision seems misplaced.

on Apr 05, 2007
So I would have to buy an all new machine to even run this stuff..I shouldn't have to buy a new machine with every new application that comes out


I have a ol' Compaq sitting around somewhere from the early 90s. Can't even run Windows 95. Is it Microsoft's fault for making new software? My computer right now probably can't run Vista very well, but I'm not holding it against Microsoft or Stardock. It's what happens when technology progresses. Yeah, it's a huge pain in the ass, but whatcha gonna do?

New tech becomes obsolete in as little as a month. Go to the local electronics store, and every computer on the shelf is obsolete. It'd be nice if we could get new stuff when it comes out, but it's not practical for consumers, nor is it practical for developers and manufacturers to slow down developing and manufacturing.

And I think based on the rates of inflation, Vista doesn't cost any more in real dollars than XP, 2000 or any versions of Windows. Price of progress.
on Apr 05, 2007
It is also possible for DeskScapes on other versions of Vista to not be free. y'know.. Just a thought.     
on Apr 05, 2007
I think people are under the impression that Deskscapes is a program that can run all by itself. They may not understand that it is an extension of Microsoft's Dreamscene and can't run without it.
on Apr 05, 2007
Can I ask a question about DreamMaker (I'm just asking 'cause I wouldn't want to interfere with all that flaming action... )?

(I don't have Vista so I haven't had a chance to try it) How hard is it to program the real-time 3D stuff (like the earth's shadow)? I figured the language there is some sort of script language, not full blown programming one. However, explaining to a program how to draw a shadow isn't something that traditional scripting languages can do, unless it's some sort of a predefined function(ality), in which case what you can do is limited by what's predefined, which is usually pretty limited. So Brad, could you "paint a picture" of how something like this (earth's shadow) is done?

Also, while we're on subject, how complex can these dreams be in terms of both 3D graphics and interactivity? You mentioned getting weather information from the net, what about mouse and/or keyboard events, or actually any local events, could they detect and use that information? Any plans to include some sort of import function for simple 3d primitives and animations?
on Apr 05, 2007
Drop125, I bought my Ultimate from Newegg for $199. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116215 Follow that link and you'll see exactly what I purchased. And I did not buy any hardware when I bought Ultimate! I have no doubts you have to buy hardware at Fry's in order to qualify to buy the OEM of Vista there but that is not the case with Newegg.
on Apr 06, 2007
Newegg Rocks.. I'll keep saying that. I love you Newegg. **Hugs Newegg**
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