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How do socially inept people meet other socially inept people?
Published on June 14, 2004 By Zoomba In Dating
Go to any online forum dedicated to the subject of love, dating or relationships and you'll undoubtedly run across a decent number of self described geeks lamenting the fact that they can't meet anyone, that they can't find a partner that matches them in terms of personality, intelligence or preferences. We all call ourselves “nice guys” and groan about “finishing last”. We all have this ideal of the girl we want, for me it goes something like this:

-Must be geeky...
Non-geeks don't tend to understand geeks very well, and it just causes no end of frustration for both sides. Being a geek implies certain other required traits...

-Not extremely social
When I say this I don't mean must have social phobias or be neurotic around people, I just mean that I don't want someone who is all about going out and partying, or spending every night at a bar. I can hold my own in a social situation just fine, I can go to bars and enjoy myself and survive alright at a party if I know at least one other person there, but these are not activities I enjoy generally. I want a girl who is just as happy as I am to spend the night in, or to go out with a small group of friends from time to time. However, they have to be a bit more social than I am so I have my limits tested and am forced to occassionally talk to other human beings...

-Enjoy some of the geekier things in life...
Computers or computer games, RPGs, comic books, something... anything... I'd like the girl I date to be into something geeky, preferably the same things I am geeky about... It helps to have someone to do the geeky things with, helps even more if it's your S.O so they don't get jealous of time spent with geek friends (especially if those friends include any girls)

-Not completely psychotic...
This is a trait that is hard to detect on first meeting someone. ... but it seems I'm a pro at picking the nutjobs out (last 4 girlfriends have all had some serious mental issues to work out... ). This is made even harder as the truely crazy ones are often the quiet ones... a trait shared by the geek girls... So it's easy to be tricked into picking one of the loonies.

Those are the three main criteria for me... of course attractive would be a nice bonus, but I'm not as hung up on looks as I am on personality and intelligence. This is a similar list to what my other geek friends would like to find, and seems to kinda match what I've seen on online personals sites. The problem here is that those of us seeking this tend to be shy, and generally socially inept... and we're looking for people more or less just like us. How do two shy people who avoid social situations meet? Certainly not in a social situation, and online dating services are questionable at best. Clubs don't tend to work from the guy side of things as they're filled with other geek guys and if any girl is brave enough to show up, they are pounced on by at least a dozen guys within the first few minutes. It's a catch-22 for the male geek. Sometimes we luck out and by random chance and find someone who matches what we're looking for, but more often than not we find something that sorta matches a basic criteria or two (i.e is female, shows interest) and settle for that.

It's a tough spot to be in, being socially inept trying to meet up with someone else who is just as inept, nothing traditional works... you just have to pray for some random luck.

Comments
on Jun 14, 2004
What about the outdoors? A lot of geeky girls like to do things outdoors. Or what about the library? Or the video store? Or Staples in the computer section (that was a joke) The problem with relationships is that people have expectations. If you meet someone take it day by day (i did the opposite and ended up miserable). ALL people have tons of flaws-and the people you think are normal are generally much more fucked up than you'd think. Bigger cities bring about bigger groups of geeks. I don't know how old you are, but i'd say by late 20's you should find someone like yourself. Otherwise expand your horizons a little. Start slow and gain some confidence. You know you're a nice guy, so let it be known. If you don't love yourself, you can't expect to love or find love.
on Jun 14, 2004
This was meant to be more of a commentary on the no-win situation most geeks find themselves in. You list places to meet other people are all fine and dandy, but it ignores the social issues most of us have. I myself actually don't have much trouble meeting new people or making friends when I feel like it, but I know I'm better off in this department than many others. I'm not personally worried about finding someone, it'll happen, just gotta be patient and see what comes along and take it all as it happens.

The entire dating thing is dependent on one person going out on a limb to meet and get a date with another person. The problem for many geeks is that they lack the ability/confidence/common sense needed for doing this. Dating just requires a completely different approach for those of us who got shorted on charm and charisma
on Jun 14, 2004
Probably your best bet as a geek is to go to some decent-sized SF conventions. Lots of geek girls go to these, and in many cases they are somewhat scantily clad, or at least racily clad. Of course that may make talking to them even harder.