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Instead of voting *against* Bush
Published on November 1, 2004 By Zoomba In Politics
This race has been horrible. Absolutely dismal. The democratic party managed to run its campaign straight into the ground, and then beat itself over the head repeatedly with bricks. The press didn't help matters much by making it completely and utterly obvious that they were trying to stack the race in favor of Kerry. I don't think we've ever had a campaign this poorly managed across the board. Kerry added to the circus by flip-flopping his position once he got the Dem nomination. As a left-leaning moderate, I am at a complete loss to come up with any reason whatsoever to vote *for* Kerry...

Other than he's not Bush.

I hate that I'm voting not for a candidate but against another. It depresses me to think that these two guys are the best the country has to offer for candidates for President of the United States... THE most important job in the entire world!

I have a laundry list of reasons I do not want to see Bush return to the White House, but not one solid reason I want to see Kerry take his place. It is truely a lesser of two evils type decision. I know some argue "Better the devil you know than the one you don't", but after four years of Bush, I'm ready to take that chance.

Why I am voting against Bush...
1. Abortion
I'm *strongly* pro-choice. I don't think anyone has ANY say over what a woman does with her own body. That said I'm even more pro-responsibility and don't think it's cool to use abortion as a form of birth control. Condoms are 75 cents from a bathroom vending machine, so cost is no excuse. If you choose to be pro-life, that's cool, go for it... I'm all for people living by their own moral code, but everyone has to understand that in some cases what you deem moral isn't the same for everyone else you run into. I also don't buy into the whole if you kill a pregnant woman it's a double homicide. You can't have it both ways, it's all or nothing. Having people in power who would try and dictate such things to us frightens me.

2. Gay Marraige
This goes along with #1 through the dictating morals to others bit. What harm does it do to you, an average citizen if two men or two women get married? Marraige hasn't been a purely religious institution for centuries... it's as much a state institution now with tax breaks, insurance pricing and everything else. Are you so insecure that Adam and Steve getting hitched makes your union less special? Arguments of nature vs. nurture aside, do you remember a time when inter-racial unions were considered just as wrong? You can argue that marrying outside of your faith is just as much wrong, since you're married to a "sinner" I don't care who marries who, it's none of my business and it's none of yours either. Anyone who seriously wants to put through a constitutional ammendment banning this scares the shit out of me. Our Constitution is there to guarantee rights, not deny them... we saw how well that went over with Prohibition.

3. Iraq
I think it was a mistake, plain and simple. I was in favor of Afghanistan, I am in favor of hunting down Al Queda(I know I spelled it wrong) with the help of the nations we find them in. I think Osama's head should be stuck on a spike and planted on the White House lawn for all to see. Such hateful men are a stain on the group they claim to represent, as well as on all of humanity. Iraq was a red herring. Saddam was a bad man, no question, who did bad things to his people, once again no question... but did he pose a threat to us? Never was the case sucessfully made, and the "evidence" we used kept shifting... first it was the Al Queda/Iraq link, we ditched that one pretty fast though, then it was the weapons (which was our entire case to the UN), which also hasn't panned out yet. Finally we're just going "Bad man, we had to get rid of him". I don't think it's our job or our right to dictate to other nations how they should be run. It's not our responsibility to unseat nasty men from power. And if we're going to do it, we have to be uniform about it, and not just pick and choose the easy ones. Look at N. Korea, or hell most of South America... why aren't we invading them if we're truely out to make the world safer? Now that we're there however, we have to see it through. We have to make good on our promises now that we've pulled the rug out from under the country.

Note that I do not list the economy here... that's because I firmly believe that the president doesn't have as large of an influence on our economy as everyone else seems to want to think. True, his economic policies can have an impact, but it takes years for that to happen. And true, he can encourage or discourage growth to some extent through how confident he makes investors feel, but he can't be blamed for a market readjustment (which is what this is, we get them ever 20 years or so) that started before he took office (the tech bubble was already starting to pop). I think bad decisions can be made (the tax credit that blew the surplus for example)... but that doesn't cause what's happening now. Face it, you can't blame Bush for everything... though sometimes it is fun.

So those are my big reasons for wanting Bush out of office... Will Kerry do any better? I don't know, but I think it's worth taking a chance and seeing. Will he flip his stance on issues after polls change and suddenly find himself supporting those things I hate? Absolutely, though unlikely. In the event that happens, I'll use the power given to me through my vote to try and get rid of him. That's the beauty of the nation, we can admit to mistakes and attempt to correct them ever 4 years.

I just wish I could vote for Kerry, instead of against Bush... but you make due with what you're given.


Comments (Page 2)
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on Nov 01, 2004
I have more faith in Kerry than you do, but I think your points about gay marriage and abortion are incredibly strong points and perhaps even stronger than the War on Terror debate. The West is supposedly about freedom. Let's keep it that way.
on Nov 02, 2004
Grim & Zoomba -

The 3rd party thing is interesting to me. Here in Arizona, Bednarik's ads seem to be targeted primarily at Bush, with an actor reciting a short litany of reasons not to vote for Bush and saying, almost in passing, that he "can't vote for Kerry." Technically, that's campaigning against both, but it sounds much more anti-Bush in the playing. Maybe in other states where Kerry is leading his ads are targeted at Kerry. Perhaps someone in one of those states could enlighten us.

Cheers,
Daiwa
on Nov 02, 2004

Michael Badnarik, the Libertarian Party candidate for president, believes that the war in Iraq has been a failure and that American troops should be pulled out as safely as that can be accomplished.


Grim: I have to register to read it . . . maybe you can post an article detailing his plan?
on Nov 02, 2004
Link to Wikipedia on Badnarik, look under Issue positions and they have his Iraq War stance on there.
Iraq War: Badnarik supports a rapid withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq, while providing for repair to infrastructure damaged by U.S. action.

Hope that helps to understand his position, need more info just tell me and I will look for more.

I know his position but I understand people want to read it from him instead of me regurgitating/reiterating it.

Hopeful Plinko?
on Nov 02, 2004
The 3rd party thing is interesting to me. Here in Arizona, Bednarik's ads seem to be targeted primarily at Bush, with an actor reciting a short litany of reasons not to vote for Bush and saying, almost in passing, that he "can't vote for Kerry." Technically, that's campaigning against both, but it sounds much more anti-Bush in the playing. Maybe in other states where Kerry is leading his ads are targeted at Kerry. Perhaps someone in one of those states could enlighten us.


Yes, I watched the ad from his online source and saw it was more Anti-Bush, but visiting his website shows the LP's entire view on both.

Advert Plinko!!

on Nov 02, 2004

omg did we just see hawaii become the tie-maker?  say it aint so mzw

on Nov 02, 2004
insightful from me as well. i have to admit i voted for kerry for many of the same reasons.
on Nov 02, 2004
Well, the polls are now open here in CT... time to go cast my vote
on Nov 02, 2004
It is refreshing to see an honest Kerry Voter. Not one who is making up excuses of why they are voting for Kerry, but easily listing reasons why they are voting against Bush! Thanks for a very insightful article. It wont sway anyone, but it sure is a breath of fresh air!
on Nov 02, 2004
Some people do honestly believe in Kerry, I've not met many of them however, which is why I think this race is so close. If he had just picked a position and stuck with it, the split would probably be very different. My family are prime examples of people who can't articulate why Kerry is better, but just insist he is, and that he'd do an amazingly better job than Bush, and any disagreement usually results in a yelling match.

If we lose this election, it's not because Bush put up an amazingly strong fight, it's because we were completely incapable of mounting an effective campaign, because we let our sheer hatred blind us and thus taint everything we've said.

Either way this one goes, I don't think we as Americans really win in the end.

McCain/Powell... now that's a ticket I could get behind!
on Nov 02, 2004
McCain/Powell... now that's a ticket I could get behind!


Actually, I would rather See Liberman/Miller. Simple reason too. With the Reps having ghe congress, and the dems the White house, it would keep spending in check. Much as happened in the 90s.

I am voting for Bush, but I am not blind to his foibles. Kerry just frightens me with his past and present.
on Nov 02, 2004
I could never get behind Liberman, if only for his ridiculous stance on video games and media censorship.
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