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That didn't come out how I expected
Published on March 10, 2008 By Zoomba In WinCustomize News

Polls are interesting things.  Sometimes you ask what you think is a no-brainer, a question that could only have one reasonable outcome, but then you're surprised when it turns out to be the exact opposite.  Last week's poll worked just like that.

Last week I asked if users would like to see WinCustomize add a cell phone theme gallery to the offering.  My expectation was that everyone would be up for more customizable content on the site.  More skins = more users and that's good right?  Evidently I was wrong though as the poll came out 56 to 44% against the new gallery.  This is especially surprising considering the conversation on the thread supporting the poll with users generally being positive towards the idea.

Either way, the poll sparked a good debate and was one of our most voted on polls in ages, so it seems the idea at least got people excited enough to vote when they normally wouldn't.

Here's the graph...

For those who voted against, I'd be interested in hearing your reasons why.


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on Mar 10, 2008
Okay, now I am confused, I voted no on a new gallery for cell phone themes. Where did I vote no for no for new forums?  
on Mar 10, 2008
But I do find the attitude interesting considering we're all involved in skinning the PC, an activity most people see as being the height of pointlessness. Afterall, who cares what color the window borders are when I'm typing an email?


That's the point I was going to make. I'm sure there are plenty of people out the who think skinning your PC is a waste of time. After all, it's just a machine, right? My neighbor is one of those people. He can't understand what the big deal is, and is completely content with that hideous Win blue.

I guess it's all in personal taste, but I can't see how adding a new gallery (and with it new skinners) could be a bad thing for this site.
on Mar 10, 2008
Zoomba are you just talking about cell phone wallpaper or complete customization (icons, boarders,battery indicators and signal strength indicators)?
on Mar 10, 2008
Complete customization.  Wallpapers, themes, icons, whatever a phone is capable of.  I see no reason to limit it.
on Mar 10, 2008
Zoomba are you just talking about cell phone wallpaper or complete customization (icons, boarders,battery indicators and signal strength indicators)?
For last weeks poll I read the question "Cell Phone Themes on WinCustomize?" as any kind of theming.  I couldn't guess what Zoomba was thinking or how it was interpetted by others.  Maybe it was too open a question.

Okay, now I am confused, I voted no on a new gallery for cell phone themes. Where did I vote no for no for new forums?
I read your post as "No to new cell theme gallery because I wouldn't use a cell phone theme." I extrapolated that to "No to any galleries that I won't use"  In my reply #14 I mistakenly used "forums" when I meant "galleries".  Sorry for the confusion.

Other than mistaking the words . . did I misunderstand your voting/reasoning?
on Mar 10, 2008
The problem is that your asking people who come to this site for the things that are already here so your results are going to be biased. There is a solid reason to have this gallery and the results of the poll don't change that. I don't recall voting on whether MY COLORS was a good idea.
on Mar 10, 2008
As I said in post #12 there is only a limited number of phones that you can customize. That might be why the poll went that way. I could be wrong and I usually am BUT I would like to see a list of the phones that you can customize.
on Mar 10, 2008
Zubaz, you have hit me square on the back of the head.   

That is exactly how I voted, I wouldn't use cell phone themes, hence why would I want a gallery library for them. Yea, rather selfish attitude I would now admit. It doesn't take into account the broader picture of keeping customizing current and relevent to new devices coming on the market. Plus if I don't use a particular customizing capability I can just not look at the skins.

Would you look at that, I'm wearing one black and one white sock!!!      

on Mar 10, 2008
ZubaZ huggles philly for being a good bloke  . . no matter what craziness he may spew. 
The problem is that your asking people who come to this site for the things that are already here so your results are going to be biased.
He's right Zoomba, we need to find a way to poll everyone on the internet that DEOESN't come to the site.    
on Mar 10, 2008
He's right Zoomba, we need to find a way to poll everyone on the internet that DEOESN't come to the site.


What?       
on Mar 10, 2008
As Phone skinning becomes more prevalent ( and it will, the demand for personalization drove MFG's to support wallpapers Etc on phones) there will be a need for a place to get them. I think WC would benefit from this traffic as well as bring another skinable item in to the fold. WC currently hosts many non SD customizing applications, which have added new faces and ideas to the community at large over the years.



I like my new Chocolate and Apparently it is skinable.    I used to be one who only wanted the basics in a phone. But now with there being only a few decent basic phones around and skinning of them on the rise, I want to be able to skin it and get away from the boring few themes they offer as the defaults. 
on Mar 10, 2008

By the way, I don't mean to imply that the vote for "No" was the wrong one, merely that I was surprised and didn't entirely understand it.  I was seeking clarification and explanation.

As to polling people on the site for what they'd like added to the site... seems perfectly reasonable to me.  People here visit many different websites for different content.  I'd like to make WC the place they come for most, if not all of it over time.  So I ask the current audience what would be a good value add to the site in terms of galleries.   Now though I know that if I add a Cell Phone Themes gallery to the site, it will partially be to service existing members (44%), but largely as an effort to attract a completely new crowd.

Every poll I take regarding site expansion and policy is very helpful in letting me know how such changes will impact both the existing community, and how it will play to draw in new users.  The results help advise me on my plans for future additions and changes to the site. 

The name of the game is growth.  Bigger, better community serving more users, more skins, more skinners, better features.  So I try and find the path that gives the community what it wants, and is attractive to new users.

on Mar 10, 2008
I think cell phone themes would have been a good idea but looking at the site and its name, i think it would have been better to make a section for Windows mobile themes. i mean this is WINcustomize so it would make sense to only skin things windows related and since windows mobile is windows related, it should be skinned. I think the Pocket PC section should be changed to Windows mobile section.
on Mar 10, 2008
Adding a cell phone gallery doesn't mean we'd be releasing an application to handle it.
An application to handle it is not an issue here, but what about the bandwidth? Seems to me that Wincustomize already has the amount of visitors they can handle - at least based on my experience visiting the site. I rarely rate skins and/or leave comments here anymore, simply beacause it takes too long and more galleries sure won't speed things up. What's next - car customization? Now THAT would bring new users to the site AND the BIG $$...
on Mar 11, 2008
While Im not opposed to cell phone Themes - I don't care what my cell phone looks like either. I only hold it against my ear so I dont think my ear cares what wallpaper in in the little square. So many galleries that already exist are not given much attention... So if you do implement cell phones themes is it going to be a repeat of Xion skins ? With a cell phone theme being featured 5 times a week until Im cell phoned to death ?
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