I have said it all along and continue to say it.  They have to come up with a constructive vision, and run on it.  Dont run on "The sky is falling because Republicans are in  charge" crap.  Run on a vision for the future.  And run someone right of Kerry.  A NE Liberal is not going to be elected again in the near future.

It's strange how some people truly believe they have a choice here. Bush and Kerry are cousins in the Skull and Bones secret society. Does no one know what that even means?

It's strange how some people truly believe they have a choice here. Bush and Kerry are cousins in the Skull and Bones secret society. Does no one know what that even means?

It means you are clueless.

*sigh* Reiki, lets leave the conspiracy theories alone.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm!, Let see now:

1. Dems need to move more to the center, and stop using the Hollywood and music stars to push their ideals.

2. Put out a plan of attack that is outlined so that voters have a better ideal of what the Dems are going for. Don't put out a book like the one Kerry/Edwards put out that did nothing more that indicate what the problems are, but with nothing on how to fix those problems.

3. Get off this kick on we need to tax the upper middle class along with the rich and famous. Stop beating a dead Horse. The problem with this is some of the Dems/liberals who beat on this horse are richer than the average voter (Michael Moore, Alex Baldwin, etc.), thus the voter is some what confused as to why this rich person feels he/she needs to pay more taxes (they really don't - tax loops).

4. Stop saying we need to raise taxes. The people in this country are tried of the same B.S. Instead of saying we are going to raise taxes outline to the voters how we can better streamline the budget to maintain a level of spending that would help pull the nation out of the debt that we are presently in. It isn't paying the taxes so much as it is seeing the taxes go up, and nothing is being seen that is considered beneficial to the average tax payer/voter.

5. Try to come up with a plan of attack that would allow oil drilling to help ease the problems being brought on by the world oil problems (try to remember that there are other nations who use oil on as scale almost that of the U.S.). Be real about helping set up funding for new ideals in the area of energy (re-think the stand on Nuclear power plants).

Hopefully I can think of more as time goes by. Like this idea, and hopefully bloggers will use this forum to bring out some excellent ideals. And, being a woman I think it would be great to see Rice and H. Clinton go at it; it sure would be an interesting compaign.

Pam

2 by Reiki-House Thursday, April 28, 2005

It's strange how some people truly believe they have a choice here. Bush and Kerry are cousins in the Skull and Bones secret society. Does no one know what that even means?

I do and wondered why this was not an issue with many people. they are more than frat brothers, skull and bones weilds a tremendous amount of power in america.. bush and kerry cut from the same peice of very expensive damascus cloth

Excellent points Pam!

On the Clinton vs Rice bit... it would be amazing because the Dems couldn't throw the race or gender cards. We'd have a campaign that couldn't devolve into an argument over representation of minorities. With those two fluff issues out of the way (not to say minorities are irrelevant, it's just that it's usually a made up issue used to confuse and anger voters) they would be forced to deal with real issues.

On the Clinton vs Rice bit... it would be amazing because the Dems couldn't throw the race or gender cards.

ANd I dont see it happening. WHile Clinton is trying to be a politician, Rice will never be. She is a diplomat and tactician, and finds the subterfuge of politics difficult because of that.

I still think Elizabeth Dole would be the best, but I dont see her running or winning.

Zomba; some very good points on the rice and gender card.

The only problem at this point (may not be later) is big bad "John McCain." People tend to see him as a kind of liberal republican that would bring together the two parties (I don't see it myself). Put if Rice could force him to back down and give her his support then you would really see a great race. And, this election could have a significance on how the congress is set. If Clinton gets the nob this may cause a backleace to the present strong hold the republicans have at the time.

With a lame duck in office we should really start seeing the jocking for position by the early players sometime next year. It is going to be fun, and the bloggers are going to be out for a field day no matter who is running.

Pam

Dr. Guy

Some good points on Rice. But, you know that the power of the office does fuuny things to the mind. And, oh by the way Dwight D. wasn't a politician, nor was Grant.

Pam

And, oh by the way Dwight D. wasn't a politician, nor was Grant.

---I've been reading about grant, and feel he was kinda pushed into the presidency, as he was a supporter of the republican movement back then...kinda strange.....