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Your endless rants and whining have helped me see the err of my ways
Published on April 11, 2005 By Zoomba In Politics
This one is for you, the extreme liberals of JoeUser who have spent the past year and a half I've regularly blogged here screaming, stomping and gnashing teeth over the pure evil that is George Bush and the vile conspiracies of the Right. You have helped me further define my political views, my stances on issues and my attitude towards our government and the world at large.

Thanks to you, I intend to re-register as an Independent. That's a change AWAY from Democrat.

I grew up in a University town, an area dominated by liberal thinkers. I saw the countless campus protests all my life. I listened to my father rant and rail against Republicans. My sister went to one of the protests in Washington D.C a few years ago. Several of my friends back home are far far left animal rights and nature nuts. I lived my life in a liberal's dream location. The conservatives were few and generally laughed at, and all was well in our little blue town amidst a sea of red counties. My views fit in well, I was as left as you got and was against just about anything closely related to the Right. I was a Loopy Luddite Lefty and I admit it. But then something important happened...

I went to College, I was exposed to people with different ideas. I later moved away from my hometown, away from the Reality Distortion Field that surrounds any University town and ventured out into the wonders of the "Real World" where I was exposed to even more ideas and differing thoughts. It was from this new distance however that I began to see the sheer stupidity of some of the tactics of the left. Then I saw the way people here were behaving and realized that it wasn't something confined to the little town I came from... it was beginning to look like the insantiy was a bit wider spread.

Add to all of this the last election. Bush won again, and this time there couldn't really be any claims of "stealing" the election or whatever. Yet, most of the people I knew were still screaming, wailing, gnashing their teeth over the outcome. In fact, months later THEY STILL ARE. They try to blame absolutely everything that's going wrong in the US and the World on Bush. World hunger? Bush did it! Trade Defecit? Didn't exist before Bush! Social Security? Bush wants to kill old people! It's just plain ridiculous.

The constant complaining, the irrational hatred is just getting to be too much for me. This sentiment isn't limited to extremists in the party anymore either, we see it in Washington with Dem congressmen voting against everything Bush puts up just because it's Bush. I don't think I want to be associated anymore with a group that has made their sole platform "Everything that Bush says is wrong" It's petty, reactionary and lacks any sense of drive, vision or future. I want out. You all have proven to me that this is not a group to be affiliated with.

Now, I'm not jumping the fence to the Right. I'm still a pretty damn liberal guy on a number of issues, but I'm also reasonable enough to recognize the merits of conservative policies as well. I've grown more moderate as a result of how people here on JU, as well as those I know in real life react to politics. This is why I'm moving to Independent. Sure, I won't be able to vote in primaries, but I will feel more free to vote my mind across party lines. I won't have to deal with people calling me a bad Democrat or whatever. I'll be registered as what I am, one who thinks independently of either major party.

I voted against Bush. I disagreed with the Iraq invasion. I support ongoing efforts in Iraq to shore up the government and ensure the save eventual withdrawl of our troops when the time is right. I am against any law banning Gay Marraige as such a law is entirely based upon Religion which I feel has no place in our laws. I am against attempts to sanitize our language so as to not offend gender, race or creed since attempts to do so stifle free speech. I have a mailman damnit! Not a mailPERSON. I favor help programs for the poor and unemployed as a method to rehabilitate, not as a method to sustain them for years and years. I am in favor of revisions to Social Security to make it a more streamlined process, and less of a political mess. I support the death penalty and am pro-choice. I think we need to be consistent and strong in our foreign policies, but do not think we have the right to dictate to other nations how they should behave.

I'm done with the Democratic party until such a time comes around that it expells its crazy fanatics and actually starts addressing real issues instead of reacting to things they don't like.

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on Apr 11, 2005

Ahhh yess...

"If only you knew the power of the dark side... Strike me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete..."

I'm taking applications for a new apprentice, the last one met with an... unfortunate end... MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!

 

on Apr 11, 2005
LOL! So Independent is really the Sith? Do I get to pick my color of lightsaber?
on Apr 11, 2005

Over in the Venezuala discussion Myrrander wrote:

Chavez is the new Castro. The difference is that he has oil leverage. It makes me laugh. I hope he fucks the US with a big rubber dick.

And that blogger isn't even as far left as many of the bloggers on this site.   I find some of the right-wing posts on JU quite obnoxious and I tend to skip over them.  However, at least they're not hoping for bad things to happen to the United States and its people. 

Many on the American left aren't just against some US policy, they're anti-American.  They WANT bad things to happen to the US and its people.

Take the statement above to its logical conclusion - if gas prices went way up, who is hurt? The poor that liberals insincerely claim to care so much about.

You would be pretty hard pressed to find right of center Americans HOPING for bad things to happen to the US.  And that's why so many moderate people are being pushed to the right.  They don't want to be associated with people who hope for bad things to happen to us.

on Apr 11, 2005
And that blogger isn't even as far left as many of the bloggers on this site. I find some of the right-wing posts on JU quite obnoxious and I tend to skip over them. However, at least they're not hoping for bad things to happen to the United States and its people.


--First thing, If one of those comments were by me, i apologize, and 2] that seems[from what i've seen] to be a majority,so do you get to read were the topic is going? J/K

you would be pretty hard pressed to find right of center Americans HOPING for bad things to happen to the US. And that's why so many moderate people are being pushed to the right. They don't want to be associated with people who hope for bad things to happen to us.


--Want me to say it? J/K [I pretty pro american, occassionally anti-ignorance.....,so no worries]



on Apr 11, 2005
Send this to Little Whip and show her why we need to Keep Dabe!
on Apr 11, 2005
I've seen some of the extremism on the Right here, but it usually takes a different form from the Left. On the Left it's a hope that the US fails in some way or has vengence visited upon them. The far right has a habit of labeling anyone who disagrees with them as traitors that should get the hell out of the US. Don't like the Iraq war? You must be an unpatriotic bastard and should just move to Canada!

The thing is right now, since the war is pretty much decided, those people have largely quieted down, so now we're left with frustrated Liberals who can't accept that they lost fair and square and that their ideas and policies do not appeal to the majority of the population like they would think.
on Apr 11, 2005
Welcome to the world of us who like to look at the world and decide a few things for ourselves!!

on Apr 11, 2005
The thing is right now, since the war is pretty much decided, those people have largely quieted down, so now we're left with frustrated Liberals who can't accept that they lost fair and square and that their ideas and policies do not appeal to the majority of the population like they would think.


--I think you hit the nail on the liberals coffin there..... J/K but you do have a point...
on Apr 11, 2005
*smile*

Hyperbolic language is the only thing that gets a response most of the time. So I tend to talk a bit more extreme than I feel. I also have a really dark sense of humor, and that's where the "big rubber dick" comment springs from.

But thanks for quoting me. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

And Zoomba? Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way over to the right. Can you take Sen. Byrd with you?
on Apr 11, 2005
BTW, you are liberal, correct? Me, i am pretty much a Centrist,occasionally on certain topics i lean to either side...but mostly a centrist...
on Apr 11, 2005
Was, talking to Myrr...[just to clear up to whom i was referring to in the last post]
on Apr 11, 2005

And Zoomba? Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way over to the right. Can you take Sen. Byrd with you?

Sorry, the days of you whitewashing your sins and problems are over.  You have to deal with him yourself.

on Apr 11, 2005
On my way over to the right? Hardly! On my way to the middle? Absolutely. Away from the fanatical left? Definitely.
on Apr 11, 2005
On my way over to the right? Hardly! On my way to the middle? Absolutely. Away from the fanatical left? Definitely.


Welcome zoomba to the greatly Intellegent, minimal ignorance part of the spectrum....The Moderates/Centrists.....
on Apr 11, 2005
Unfortunately Joe, the Repubs are too close to the Dimos for my taste.

However, as for the Dimos, I fear that the irrational behavior of the left will cause us more problems with terrorists in the near future. By knee jerk opposition to the immigration problem; the political use of the Abu Ghraib (Sp) harrassment of the terrorists that has resulted in ineffective interogation proceedures that curtails the collection of meaningful intelligence information; the PC approach to profiling that prevents identifying potential terrorists; and the opposition to the Patriot Act could result in future terrorist attacks in this country.

My point is: support for the Dimos, i.e. the left, is dangerous and we cannot afford to indulge the stupidity of the left because the results could be the deaths of thousands of US citizens. We must consider using drastic methods to rein in the left before we pay a heavy price.
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